Thank you, it's a very informative video, I learned a lot. Ancient Chinese armours were very good, these armours balanced protection and mobility.
谢谢，这是一个信息量大的视频，我学到很多。古代中国铠甲非常优秀，兼顾了防御和机动性。
Intranetusa3年前I believe the last part from 9:45 until the end are all Han era armor and not Qin era armor? It was only in the Han era before steel and iron became mass produced for use as armor.
我认为从9:45到结尾的部分都是汉代铠甲而非秦代铠甲？钢铁被大量生产用于锻造铠甲之前只存在于汉代。
TheXanian3年前对Intranetusa的回复@Intranetusa Actually steel and iron was already used in battles during the Warring Stataes period in China.
事实上钢铁在中国战国时代已经被用于战争。
Intranetusa3年前对Intranetusa的回复@Intranetusa But the vast majority were leather, and to a lesser extent bronze. I'm sure iron/steel were used but they were rare and most likely reserved for the elite. However, the pictures I'm referring to have been specifically refereed to as Han-era equipment on various websites.
但是绝大多数都是皮革，只加入较少的铜。我确定铁/钢已经被使用但是它们十分罕见且可能只掌握在精英阶层手中。无论如何，那些图片我所提到的曾被许多网站明确地作为汉代装备提及过。
firearthwater3年前对Intranetusa的回复@Intranetusa that armor was excavated in the first emperor's tomb along with the terracotta army
这种铠甲随兵马俑出土于秦始皇陵
firearthwater3年前对Intranetusa的回复@Intranetusa the armor @3:30 is made of iron also, but only the rich elites can wear that at that period...and i think the Qin one is made of iron instead of steel, steel was perfected in Han dynasty...but one other point is that Qin army usually perfer lightning wars, so they like to move fast, heavy armors would just weigh them down. leather armor is very effective against arrows too, its pretty tough, most people underestimate its abilities.
3:30的铠甲同样用铁锻造，但是在这个时期只有富裕的精英层能够穿戴....我认为在秦朝主要是用铁而不是钢，钢完善于汉代...不过有另一个观点认为秦朝军队通常更乐意进行闪电战，所以他们喜欢快速行进，而重甲让他们更笨重。皮甲在对抗弓箭上同样非常有效，它相当牢固，许多人低估了它的能力。

Intranetusa3年前对firearthwater的回复@firearthwater The Qin didn't produce enough iron/steel to equip their soldiers with weapons & armor I believe. Even in the early Han, only certain weapons were iron, and most armors were either leather or bronze. Mid-Han, the iron industry grew sufficiently large to mass produce standardized equipment for soldiers.
我相信秦没能生产足够的铁/钢装备士兵的武器和防具。即使在汉初，也只有某些兵器是铁制品，大多的铠甲还是皮革或者铜。汉中期，铁产业才增长足够大到大量生产作为士兵制式兵器。
Dominique STUDER3年前对Intranetusa的回复@Intranetusa Once you have the technology to produce iron, it is cheaper than bronze. Copper is still expensive today.
一旦你有技术生产铁，它的造价就比铜低。铜在今天仍然昂贵。
Intranetusa3年前对Dominique STUDER的回复@stdrdm Yes it is, which is why the late Western Han and the Eastern Han mass equipped their troops with iron equipment.
是的没错，这也是为什么西汉晚期和东汉的军队大规模地配备了铁制装备。
Aetius1143年前I found this video very informative. Thank you for posting it!
我发现这个视频非常丰富。谢谢你的发布。
jobjed3年前the waring states could have easily defeated alexander the great's army. the qin and zhao armies equalled 950000 men, close to a million. this is already MANY times the number of alexander's army plus the other 5 state's armies have not been included yet.
战国可以轻易地击败亚历山大大帝的军队。秦赵军队超过950000人，接近一百万。这已经是数个时期亚历山大军队相加的数量并且其他五国的军队没有被包括在内。

fl333r2年前对firearthwater的回复@firearthwater Thanks!谢谢RaysorX12年前对firearthwater的回复
@firearthwater china's door has being opened for over thousand of year.They built a road to rome in han dynasty. Give Rome a lot of things such as advanced technology.(like better iron casting technique,then rome can build good long sword and sth like that). Great culcure, Better household items, papermaking technology and so on. Chinese Dynasties leads the world for almost 2000 years, it brings important and positive impact to the world.
中国的大门已经打开超过千年。他们在汉朝开通了通往罗马之路。给罗马带来了很多东西和先进技术。（像更好的铸铁技术，然后罗马可以铸造更好的长剑和其他物品）。伟大的文化，更好的家具用品，造纸技术等等。中国王朝处于世界领先地位近2000年，它带给了世界重要而积极的影响。
RaysorX12年前对starspawn的回复@StarSpawn06 yes，and indian kingdom was a piece of cake for chinese dynasties at that time.
是的，这个时期的印度王国对于中国是小菜一碟。
RaysorX12年前对TheXanian的回复@TheXanian actually the iron casting technology in china was 1400 years earlier than europe
实际上中国铸铁技术领先欧洲1400年。
Intranetusa2年前Great work. However you shouldn't only include the Sinitic states - you should expand to include all the non-Sinitic contemporary kingdoms such as the Minyue, Nanyue, Orodos, etc - states that eventually became a part of ancient China.
伟大的工作。你不应该只包括汉语系地区-你应该扩大范围加入所有当代的非汉语地区如闽越，南越，鄂尔多斯，等等最终成为古代中国一部分的地区。

Intranetusa2年前对starspawn的回复1. In that case all the conquerors I listed earlier carried out atrocities, not glorious feats. Almost all historical leaders who engaged in violence to expand the power and prestige of the nation would fall under this category. 2. Debatable, since the conquests did facilitate an exchange of culture, technology, and ideas between many civilizations. I will agree on the "Great" part - I don't think Alexander was that Great either and iirc, it was a name given to him by the Romans and it stuck
1.如果是那样的话之前我所列举的征服者都实行了暴行而非光荣的壮举。几乎所有历史人物通过暴力扩张国家的权力和威望都属于这一类。2.值得商榷的是，征服活动促进了多个文明之间的文化、科技和思想交流。我认同“大帝”称号-不是我认为亚历山大是大帝，而是如果我没记错那是罗马人给与他的。
starspawn2年前对Intranetusa的回复1. I see that you do not wish to compare, so I'll leave it as that. 2. No, those conquests I am condemning did not "facilitate" an exchange of culture. The true facilitators were explorers like the Phoenicians, the people who established the Silk Road etc. What the conquests did was mainly to impose one culture on another. Whatever "progress" they caused was often outweighed by the resulting backsliding. e.g the end of the Islamic and Chinese Golden Age due to the Mongol invasions.
1.那我看你是不想比较，所以就让他那样吧。2.不，我谴责的征服活动并没有“推动”文化交流。真正的推动者是开拓者如建立丝绸之路的腓尼基人等等。而征服者所做的主要要将一种文化强加给另一个文明。无论如何“进程”他们所导致通常是超过限度的倒退。例如伊斯兰和中国黄金时代在蒙古入侵下的终结。

Intranetusa2年前对starspawn的回复That is incorrect. First, Alexander's conquest did facilitate the exchange of culture. That's why it was known as the Hellenistic era, a combination of predominately Greek and Persian cultures in the Middle East. Second, the Phoenicians never established the silk road. They were mostly a Mediterranean trading culture. It was actually the Alexander's Hellenistic successor states, Seleucids and Bactria that made contact with the Han who help start the Silk Road on the Western side.
这是不正确的。首先亚历山大的征服同样推动文化交流。这也是为什么它被称作希腊时代，在中东则是占支配地位的希腊文化和波斯文化的结合体。其次，腓尼基人从未建立丝绸之路。他们更多的是地中海贸易文明。事实上亚历山大的希腊式继承国，塞琉和巴克特里亚在西方侧和汉朝接触帮助开始了丝绸之路。
Intranetusa2年前对starspawn的回复
And the "progress" that you mention of the Islamic and Chinese Golden Age themselves were themselves due to conquest and imposition of culture on others. The Sinitic States and Muslims are classic examples of imposing their own culture on others. And the Mongol invasions facilitated culture exchange between east and west. Paper...technologies such as gunpowder, engineering, etc. The Islamic Golden Age was already in decline, and we don't know if the Song would've become isolated like the Ming.
并且你所提到的“进步”关于伊斯兰和中国黄金时代是他们自己去征服和强加他们的文化在其他国家身上而实现的。汉语国家和穆斯林是加诸文化于他国身上的典型事例。且蒙古入侵推动了东西方文化交流。纸...科技如火药，工程技术等等。伊斯兰黄金时代已经在衰弱，我们也不知道宋朝是否会像明一样闭关锁国。
starspawn2年前对Intranetusa的回复You still seem to hold that all conquests should be treated as the same in terms of severity. No, the Mongol invasions caused destruction on a greater scale than the early Caliphates' and Song dynasty's own campaigns. Also, the Mongol Empire did not contribute to scientific progress as the latter two states did, and the "culture exchange" that you credited it with had already been going on since the Tang dynasty. If you wish to discuss this further, PM me. No word limit that way.
你似乎仍然持有所有征服者按等同程度对待。不，蒙古入侵造成的破坏比哈里发早期和宋朝自己的征战范围更大。此外，蒙古帝国并没有对科技进步作出贡献而后两者做了，且“文化交流”你所相信的已经自唐代持续下来。如果你希望讨论这个，PM我，这样不会有字数限制。

tarspawn2年前对Intranetusa的回复Actually, I meant "pheonicians" and "people who established the silk road" as two separate entities. My bad.
事实上，我意指的“腓尼基人”和“建立丝绸之路的人”是两个独立的实体。这是我的错。
RalphyGreene2年前People say those face masks originated in greece, but now I know for sure that isnt true.
人们说这种面罩起源于希腊，但是现在我肯定他是错的。
angellicvoices2年前Interesting that the armour plates were made of wood and rhino leather. It makes sense though, because it is lighter on the battlefield. I can see how solid wood and rhino leather would be pretty strong and cheap to manufacture. Very interesting!!
有趣的是这个盔甲的板块是有木头和犀牛皮制作成的。这感觉很难搞，因为它在战场上更轻便。我可以看到实木和犀牛皮将是非常强大且制造廉价。非常有趣！
kaindrg2年前对RalphyGreene的回复fukers always say something is from greece.
傻总说一切都来自希腊。

kaindrg2年前对Intranetusa的回复"The Mongolian Peace" or Pax Mongolicus(idk how its spelled ) was what kept asia from being inclusive. and facilitaded more west ward transfer of knowledge more than what was already going on. dam Copernicus based his theory of the sun off imports of mongolian and islamic star charts availible in poland and put the piecies together
“蒙古的和平”或者蒙古治下的和平使亚洲被包容。比过去推动更多西方语言的知识转移。哥白尼完善他的太阳中心理论依靠了在波兰可以进口蒙古和伊斯兰的星图使之联结。
kaindrg2年前对starspawn的回复Yes the mongolians were destructive. but they were extremely effective in bring the rest of the world on to the same playing field. like the use of gun powder didnt come into effect till the timurids brought it over after they began transfering chinese and persian scientists west ward. the use of thing like star maps and solar centric theories were brought on by polish being able to import persian and mongol/chinese star charts.
是的蒙古是极具破坏性的。但是他们十分有用地带给了世界其他地方一个公平的竞争环境。像火药没有行之有效直到帖木儿带过来在他们开始向西转移中国和波斯的科学家。像星图的使用和太阳中心理论都是能进口波兰的波斯和蒙古/中国星图带来的。
kaindrg2年前Who is the artist at 5:13-5:19
5:13-5:19的艺术家是谁？

kaindrg2年前对starspawn的回复In the opposite direction, Europeans sent silver, fine cloth, horses, linen, and other goods to the near and far East.Increasing trade and commerce meant that the respective nations and societies increased their exposure to new goods and markets,
反向，欧洲送出银，细布，马匹，麻和其他物品到近东和远东。增长的贸易和商业意味着代表性的国家和社群以新的物品和市场提高了曝光度。
RalphyGreene2年前对kaindrg的回复I realize that im just going by what western historians believe and im saying its not true.
我知道，我只是判断某些西方历史学家坚信的而我觉的不对。
starspawn2年前对kaindrg的回复Informative, but not relevant to my point. The arabs had a world economy going already. What the Mongol Empire "contributed" was not worth the destruction they caused. This is what has to be said. There must NOT be another Genghis Khan, Timur Lenk, etc. Do you get me ?
很丰富，但与我的观点无关。阿拉伯人已经有一个世界经济网。相对于蒙古帝国导致的破坏他们的贡献是不值得的。这必须要指出。不能有另一个成吉思汗，帖木儿等等。你理解我的意思吗？
Tanveer Khan2年前Was leather armour actually effective? I cant imagine some leather fending of a slice from a sword
皮甲确实有效吗？我不能想象一些皮革抵御剑击

firearthwater2年前对Tanveer Khan的回复watch?v=QLGwNY3xMjM according to that video, laminated leather armor behaves similar to chainmail, its good against slashing, but very poorly against stabbing. Also in one Deadliest Warriors episode, they tested a15th century steel crossbow, and it couldn't even penetrate the leather armor.
watch?v=QLGwNY3xMjM照这个视频，复合皮甲类似于链甲，抵御挥砍作用良好，但对击刺显得无力。也是勇士最致命的情节，他们用一把15TH的钢弓测试，它甚至不能穿透该皮甲。
Tanveer Khan2年前对firearthwater的回复Ah ok. Thanks for the confirmation ;)
谢谢，感谢你的证实。
Nathan Yang2年前2:36, that must've been Jackie Chan from "The myth".
2:36那一定是成龙神话里的装束

on Liberty2年前learn more ancient chinese and you understand what made today japanese
了解更多古代中国你就知道什么造就了今天的日本。
esmeau2年前Japanese had copied everything from Qin Dynasty downwards from China and Korea ------ up to the Meiji Reform
日本从中国和韩国复制了自秦以降的一切----直到明治维新
Antonio Sancho1年前Source on the two paintings at 05:17 and 05:20?
求05:17 and 05:20两幅画的信息
firearthwater1年前对Antonio Sancho的回复3rd link under reference.
参考第三链接
AsiAn7Underground1年前Very nice ,
太赞了
maschera tian1年前
有些甲胄在《画说中国甲胄》里都没有啊？！楼主神通广大啊

imtheMars1年前对esmeau的回复Please don't say such a rude thing you make us look bad. Copying Korea? Korea had nothing to copy with ,they were always the lowest out of the three.
请不要说这么不礼貌的事，你让我们看起来很糟糕。复制韩国？韩国没有任何东西可以复制，他们一直是三国中最差的。
esmeau1年前对imtheMars的回复According to history: 1. Korea 高丽/高句丽/朝鲜/韩国 and Japan 日本/日本人国 copied from China 中国/中原/中土. 2. Until the Ming Dynasty 明朝, Korea was more leading than Japan. 3. Check the First 4 Japanese History Books written totally in Chinese 中文 / 汉字 ! 4. After the Sino-Japanese War 甲午战争 of Qing Dynasty 清朝, Korea was behind Japan.
按照历史：1. Korea 高丽/高句丽/朝鲜/韩国 和Japan 日本/日本人国复制China 中国/中原/中土.2.一直到明朝，韩国都更领先于日本。3.检索最早的4日本史书全部以中文书写。4. 清朝Sino-Japanese War 甲午战争之后，韩国落后于日本。
imtheMars1年前对esmeau的回复
亲韩广东佬，我操你妈血逼
esmeau1年前对imtheMars的回复Do not swear ! Respect everyone, please !
不要咒骂，请尊重每个人
Frigg off1年前Wow I always thought the repeating crossbow was created during the Song O_o
哇我一直认为连弩实在宋朝发明的。

表示最后的评论有些不和谐

这不科学......我军团长的时候，LZ元老，我元老，LZ元老，如今我都财政官了，LZ竟然还是元老......

貌似说战国末期很过国家锋线部队已经装备了铁甲，出土的亲石甲可能就是铁甲模型。