【图片】回复：【Max Riemelt】谁改变了谁的画风【马克思雷迈特吧】

KOFFLER: Frightening. Then you can't tell if life adjusts to the role or the role to life... My character Marc for example loses his former life and family in the movie, and absurdly after the shoot the same thing happened to me. I didn't expect it, but I lost my established life after the movie. And all you're thinking then is: crass!
KOFFLER: 太可怕了。然后你开始分不清到底是你的生活改变了这个角色，还是这个角色影响到你的生活。拿我的角色Marc打个比方，电影里他失去了先前的生活还有家庭。诡异的是在电影杀青后同样的事情发生在了我身上。我压根没有料想到，在影片结束后我失去了我已经建立了的生活。然后你的思维只剩下：太TMD点背了！(这边hanno应该只是打比方，但可以看出他这些话与max说的能够在各个角色之间自由切换是截然相反的，看起来他并不能特别好的区分角色和自己的人生，可能仍然会陷在某个角色里。他的想法具有典型德国人的哲学思辨的精神，容易钻牛角尖)
MÜLLER: That's super extreme. I'm getting goosebumps.
MULLER: 这太极端了，我鸡皮疙瘩都吓出来了。
KOFFLER: And regardless of the fact that the movie is about the love between two men, 'Freier Fall' is also about how a young man with family has to sort out his life completely anew. And that was a conflict that caught up with me so bad that it's totally absurd.

KOFFLER: Recently I was at Max' and we're looking around and realize: 'Wait a moment, are we really five fathers here? And are we really five fathers who aren't together with the mother of their child?' It seems to be a total normality. And I haven't yet found out if that's good or what that means. If our society and our idea of family maybe is changing completely. And if the generation of children that are growing up right now will have a totally different concept of family than we have. Maybe everything will be more free.
KOFFLER: 最近我在max家里，我们环视四周突然意识到我们竟然已经是5岁孩子的爹了。而且我们都与孩子的娘分开了。这似乎已经成为常态了。我还不清楚这是好事还是坏事，也不知道这意味着什么。如果我们的社会对待家庭的含义做出截然不同的定义，如果我们的孩子这辈能够对家庭有全然不同的概念，一切都会变得更自由。(这里已经不能更露骨了。你还指望他说：我和max同居了，我们俩是孩子的爸爸和妈妈，现在我们就在等孩子们能够理解我们，这样我们就可以名正言顺在一起了？说不定FF2结束以后等Hanno站上最佳男主角领奖台的时候，可以期待一下他说感谢Max, i love you, man…这已经是我能想到的最有可能发生的情节了)
MÜLLER: Do you actually always have to hurt to be happy? I thought about if the life decision that you make...
MULLER: 你必须以伤害对方来取乐吗？我在想这是不是你做的人生决策。

KOFFLER: Who are you talking about? The roles, the characters?
KOFFLER: 你在说谁？角色吗？
MÜLLER: No, in private life. But in the movie it's practically the same: To be happy he has to hurt her. He discovers the love to this man, and he has to go this way to find his happiness. And she stays behind, hurt.
MULLER: 不是，我说的是私下里。但其实电影里也是同一回事：为了获得幸福，他不得不伤害她。他发现自己爱着那个男人，他必须走那条道来找寻幸福。但她因此受到了伤害。
KOFFLER: I don't know if for him it's primarily about finding happiness. It's more that Marc, because of his experiences with Kay, can't go back to his previous life. But he doesn't know what will happen then. First he has to free himself from his former life.
KOFFLER: 我不认为Marc和Kay刚开始时是为了找寻幸福，而是Marc因为和Kay的这段经历无法回到原先的生活，但他不知道接下来会发生什么，他首先需要做的是把自己从原来的生活中解放出来。

RIEMELT: To find happiness, I believe, you have to be relatively consequent. I, for instance, am a person much in need of harmony, and that's exactly what's very hard for me. Of course there are always more diplomatic ways to get your feelings across, but if you want to accomplish clarity, you can't avoid injury. But these aren't injuries that you do deliberately.
RIEMELT:要寻找幸福，我相信必定会有一些后果。拿我来说，我是个对和谐要求很高的人，而现在这点对我而言很难。(这点前面max也有说到越来越难以在一切之间做出妥协什么的，我想他指的是Hanno会顾及很多，放不下很多，和之前的家庭可能还会有些交集，这让max比较难以接受) 当然，你可以通过一些外交手段帮助你暂时平复心情，但如果你想要理清头绪，你就无法避免伤害。当然这不是你故意这么做的。(keep a clarity前文max有提到，他说hanno是那种事事都想弄清的人…这边又提到了，一切都说得通…而且只有他们俩是情侣关系才能说得通)
KOFFLER: And often there's not the courage to say that you simply don't know what's going on with you.
KOFFLER: 但是通常你很难有勇气开口说你不知道你到底怎么了…

RIEMELT: Because you want to protect yourself.
RIEMELT: 因为你想保护你自己。
KOFFLER: And I'm asking myself: 'What are we protecting ourselves from?' You can see it in the movie as well, when Marc is trying to say what's going on with him.
KOFFLER: 我问我自己：我们到底害怕什么？你从影片里也能看出Marc试着说他不知道自己到底怎么了。
MÜLLER: 'It's so tight inside.'
MULLER: 他内心太挣扎了
KOFFLER: 'It's so tight', he doesn't find the right words, the interpretion of his wife is there already, so he reacts strange again, he's got the feeling that he's being misunderstood, she has the feeling that he doesn't open up, bam, bam, bam. That is the way of human communication where I'm thinking: *beep* Don't say anything! Words gone!'
KOFFLER: 是的，他很纠结，他找不到合适的词，而他老婆的解释已经在那儿了。所以他又表现得别扭起来，他觉得自己被误解了，而她觉得Marc没有对自己坦白。这就是人类沟通的方式…还是什么都别说了吧！消音！
RIEMELT: Because everybody comes from their own reality, their own logic.
RIEMELT: 因为每个人都带着自己的现实，自己的逻辑。

MÜLLER: Because it's so diffcult to imagine that there's an other reality.
MULLER: 因为要去想象别人的现实并非易事。
KOFFLER: Yes, unfortunately you always view the world only with your own eyes... It's so funny to me that we're talking ourselves into a rage here.
KOFFLER: 不幸的是我们总是用我们的眼光看问题。对我而言这太有意思了，我们居然说着说着就争了起来(Hanno这边说的争执如果不仔细琢磨大概都看不出来，我想他的意思是第一：腐女有问你是不是一定要伤害别人才能感到快乐。第二：max有说如果你想要弄清头绪，你就得有所伤害。第三：hanno自己回答说只是有时开不了口说不知道自己到底怎么了。第四：max说你只是想保护你自己。综上，其实从后面三条看来这其实是max对hanno的责备，你既然要搞清我们的关系，你就别怕伤害到别人。hanno解释说开不了口，max进一步说你就是害怕自己受伤呗…)
MÜLLER: We're good at that, aren't we? And I think it's great that you have such long hair now, Hanno, and that it sticks out instead of lying sludge on the head.
MULLER: 我们就擅长互相拆台，不是吗？另外，你头发变长了，现在它们都站起来了而不是趴在头皮上
RIEMELT: But then there's a lot of hairspray in it.
RIEMELT: 但是这也需要更多的发胶(你们不是同居是什么)

MÜLLER: By the way, the kiss at the hospital, and then Marc's mother who comes around the corner, that's so crass. That's this moment where you wished the ground would open and swallow you up.
MULLER: 顺道说一下，医院里的那个吻，被Marc的老妈撞见的那个，简直是太震惊了。这就是所谓的："恨不得地上有个洞可以钻进去"的时刻吧！
KOFFLER: And how the mother, Maren Kroymann, is looking out of the elevator, this expression. At that point there's always this murmur flowing through the theatre: 'Geez!'
KOFFLER: 而且当时Maren Kroymann扮演的母亲的角色，从电梯里向外看的表情简直绝了！电影院里四处飘着"天啊"
MÜLLER: But then the movie is also so incredibly funny. But Hanno thinks it's only me who finds it funny because I know you two...
MULLER: 但同时这个电影也很有趣。但Hanno说只有我会认为有趣，因为我认识你们俩…
KOFFLER: I don't think the movie is funny, not at all.
KOFFLER: 我不认为这部电影可以用有趣形容。
MÜLLER: But Max, tell me, you had lots of fun, I can see it in the movie.
MULLER: 但是Max,快告诉我，你觉得有趣极了。我在电影里可以看出来
RIEMELT: Of course, but the atmosphere is quite heavy, which doesn't mean that we didn't have fun shooting.

RIEMELT: 当然我们在拍摄期间充满乐趣，但是电影里的气氛是凝重的
MÜLLER: Well, the scenes in which Max provokes you...
MULLER: 好吧，Max诱惑你的那个场景…
KOFFLER: Yes, Max' glances are quite... Well, I can laugh about it when I distance myself from the story, when I see how Max is playing it. But when I put myself into Marc's shoes, the laughter is sticking in my throat.
KOFFLER: 是的，Max的对视很…好吧，当我走出故事之外看max这么演，我可能因此笑半天。但是当我站在Marc的角度时，我可就笑不出来了。
MÜLLER: It's the little moments in between that are so much fun. And I believe I wasn't the only one in the audience who laughed. For example when Max comes around the corner with the joint and you say: 'You're not serious, are you?' And you mean it like that, because to you it's completely absurd to smoke a joint in the police academy. But Max doesn't even respond to that. He doesn't respond to you at all because he knows you'll take a pull anyway.
MULLER: 我是说穿插在片中的零星片段，我相信我绝对不是观众中唯一笑出来的人。比方说当Max哪些大麻站在角落里，你说：你不会是当真的吧？因为对你而言在警察学校里抽大麻简直荒谬。但是max压根没有理睬，他知道你肯定会入伙的。

KOFFLER: You mean it's obvious for Max' character Kay.
KOFFLER: 你说的是Max的角色Kay.(前面腐女说了那么多次Max, Hanno也没指正，但一涉及毒品什么的，Hanno立即跳出来为Max洗白)
MÜLLER: Okay, it's obvious for Kay. He knows that he can wrap you round his finger and that you will cross this line with him, because you both have crossed it already. He knows this, and that's so exhilarating.
MULLER: 好吧，当然是说Kay. 他知道他可以轻易俘获你，他知道你会随他一起越界。因为你们俩已经越界了。他都知道，这才是搞笑的地方。(我想她已经真相了…她不会是真不知道剧情毕竟她也看过电影不止一遍，游泳池外抽大麻的场景之前Kay和Marc根本没有什么…所以他说的越界针对的是，hanno和max.)
KOFFLER: What, he knows it already?
KOFFLER: 什么，他已经知道了？

RIEMELT: You only think that because you know us and adjust us with our roles.
RIEMELT: 你会这么想是由于你太了解我们了，以至于把我们俩和我们的角色混为一谈了。(Max已经自己招了，所以 'Auslandseinsatz' 是hanno&max开始的地方。)
KOFFLER: Yes, you adjust it. You already start laughing because Max comes around the corner and flirts with Hanno. Jette, you don't have the required distance, haha. Look, there's Hanno! And there, Max! Aren't they hilarious?
KOFFLER: 是的，是你弄混了。你在看到Max站在角落里和Hanno调情时已经开始笑了。Jette, 你没有必要的距离感。哈哈，瞧，Hanno出现了，欧，那是Max! 他们太搞笑了！
MÜLLER: Well I wouldn't have imagined that the interview would end this way. Hahaha!
MULLER: 我怎么也想不到采访会这么结束，哈哈哈
Hamax CP得证。