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原來AB戰真的存在

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來自離職(正確來說是被逼走)的動畫師Shane Newville的公開信其中一段
@BRSXBGS
@傀儡小蝎子
沒想到真的說對了,本來該有AB和Y&A的戰鬥場景...
雖然主要應該是說Y&A的部分,但AB果然不至於那麼難看
Blake vs. Adam / Yang vs. Adam
Next up was another scene that I had been looking forward to for a very long time. Blake was
meant to fight Adam, and then Yang was supposed to come in and take over the fight,
protecting Blake from death. Once I was done with Yang vs Mercury I asked about this
longanticipated,
ultrabadass
scene.
But guess what— they didn’t even write it in the script because they didn’t look at what Monty
created for the scene before they began! It was all available to them before Monty passed
away, and after he was gone I made sure all those scenes were available to them— that they
had them in their hands. It was even more of a surprise to me since I had rendered out Monty’s
timelines for them, at the Producer’s request, before production even started. They didn’t even
look at what Monty, the creator of the show, made for his show.
The only reason I chose to stay, next to supporting my family with income, was continuing to be
dissolved to nothing.
Let me add that the Yang vs Adam fight was looking beyond badass. Monty was using a Linkin
Park song as the soundtrack to animate it to. I was told that they would just find some other
place for it down the road. But I know that when they eventually make the switch to Maya,
everything Monty and I worked so hard to build up will become unusable and therefore be
thrown into the garbage.
Each time this sort of thing happened I did my best to keep my composure and not flip out. I
didn’t want to give them more reason to cut me off completely before I could do absolutely
everything possible to get what little there still was of Monty’s, into the show intact.
Because of this decision to completely cut out this fight, there was nothing for me to do on it.
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看完整封公開信滿驚訝的,沒想到這麼多內幕
也確定原始的RWBY真的是死的
讓我覺得有沒有要續追根本一點也不重要
反正要的話就是接受這個NEW RWBY
RT決定走的商業取向,如果最後NEW RWBY賣得好,就是RT成功了
反正一部電影換導演...也就是這麼回事,只是沒想到內幕如此黑
但是還真的可以把2季以後都當AU隨意看看了...


1楼2016-05-13 11:51回复
    谢谢at


    来自Android客户端2楼2016-05-13 13:08
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      An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum
      by Shane Newville
      Summary
      I had big dreams for a long time but never believed in myself. I started going for it anyway and
      met Monty Oum, who helped the crap out of me. After years of teaching myself, loads of
      practice, picking his brain, and taking his advice, I eventually got a job that allowed me to work
      with him and get paid for it. It was the dream job, for a time. Regardless of what follows I am
      forever grateful for that. Working with him was really my only reason for being at Rooster Teeth.
      Monty met one of the greatest women on earth (Sheena Duquette) and got married. For close
      to a year both he and she worked together on RWBY Volumes 2 & 3 (herself unofficially and
      uncredited). He spent more time at home working with her at his side than he did at the office,
      hoping to bring RWBY back on track to the way he wanted to tell the story. Too soon, Monty
      passed away. Sheena was not allowed to continue working on RWBY. After Rooster Teeth
      closed the door in her face, she moved to LA to be around people who loved and supported her.
      It was a long 4 months of politics and fighting to protect Monty’s legacy, as we cared about him
      and his vision more than we cared about the company selling its IP and making bank.
      My wife left with our kids. She wanted a divorce. It was difficult for her to deal with me, my
      issues, and the insane amount of work I took on. She was hurting and lonely. I was still
      supporting my family though as the main income provider, and because I cared so much about
      honoring Monty I had 2 reasons for spending 7 months alone in Austin, TX: 1) To provide for
      my family. 2) To do what I could to ensure every bit of Monty’s finished and unfinished work still
      made it into the show intact.
      I was not allowed to work the way I did with Monty, but was instead pushed to meet the new
      standards— effectively doubling or tripling the amount of work I had to do. This meant more
      time spent trying to make everything fit the new, “proper”, way, and leaving less time for making
      cool stuff. At times I had to animate scenes without the assets, then do it all over again when
      they were given to me later, often last minute or close to the due date. It was very discouraging,
      among many other things, but I still looked forward to doing Monty proud and finishing his
      scenes. Scenes which, several times, got completely cut or changed so that they no longer had
      any relevance, or just way less of an impact.
      An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum by Shane Newville
      As much as I wanted to leave throughout 2015, I was still committed to trying my best and not
      quitting until my job was complete. I imagine Rooster Teeth knew this about me and chose to
      let me go (for whatever reason they decided) in the middle of working on the last fight. It made
      no sense to anyone who knew me and what I was dealing with. Especially so close to the end.
      I was lied to and totally caught off guard. Without explanation or warning I was brought to the
      office where I was given a speech about my performance not being that great. They escorted
      me back to collect my things but they had already removed the computers and my personal
      hard drives and would not return them until they finished archiving them all. And that was that.
      Page 2
      An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum by Shane Newville
      Introduction
      While I have many thoughts and opinions about other people and their actions, I can’t speak for
      them. But what I can do is tell you my story so you might understand who and what Monty was
      (and still is) to me. I feel it’s the only way I can truly explain those things I want you to know.
      I spent a large portion of my life wishing I could make awesome animations. I wanted to go to
      school but no opportunities came my way, not that I even believed in myself enough to attempt
      to enroll. I doubted my ability to keep up with the average person and learn, even if I were to
      find a way in.
      In late 90's I installed a trueSpace demo, pushed buttons, got lost, and uninstalled. I tried
      Blender, didn’t get far before letting the UI overwhelm me, and uninstalled. I got the furthest
      with DOGAL1/
      L2, but had to delete any finished animation to make space on the computer for
      the next. Eventually I put animation on hold to pursue music.
      2007
      Baby Steps
      This was the year that it hit me. No one was going to make it happen for me so I needed to
      make it happen for myself. I needed to be the one to pursue my own passions and stop making
      excuses for why I couldn’t. The only thing I was ensuring by not doing anything was my own
      failure, which was the biggest thing I feared, and it kept me from even trying. I was stuck in a
      neverending
      loop of nothing happening. It was time to start taking steps whether I felt I could
      or not. Even if I was taking baby steps I knew that that was still progression toward my goals.
      And so it began.
      I grew up being a fan of ninjas and martial arts, so naturally I wanted to make awesome fights. I
      loved watching cut scenes in games like Panzer Dragoon, the Final Fantasy series, etc., and
      anything 3D. I began researching 3D martial arts animations and right away came across
      Monty Oum’s “Haloid". It was the first time I saw the work of someone doing exactly what I
      wanted to do and it blew my mind. I wrote a letter to him thinking slim chance I would get a
      reply, but I had to try anyway. I had questions. Lots and lots of questions.
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        An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum by Shane Newville
        Letters from Monty
        To my surprise, about a week later I got a response. Maybe his inboxes were not yet flooded
        with fan letters. Monty had just begun gaining popularity from his work so maybe the timing just
        happened to work in my favor. I don’t know. Either way, I was overwhelmed with excitement
        and couldn’t wait to read his response. I soaked in every single word he wrote to me, typos and
        all. I tasked myself with doing the research and working to figure out what he was talking about
        before I would even think about sending another message of questions. I valued his time and
        did not want to waste a moment of it. If I was going to bother him to pick his brain, I better have
        some results to show from our last talk. Lots of people show interest and ask questions but
        then vanish.
        The years went on. Sometimes months would pass between letters. But I was learning, I was
        moving forward. Any time I got stuck I had to remind myself that other people most likely ran
        into these problems too, and that the answers were out there. Research. Practice. Practice.
        Research.
        2008
        I made my first 3D test fight animation. I did it one night while housesitting
        with my wife Katie.
        It was total crap but a lot of fun to make. Most importantly, it was another step towards doing
        what I wanted to do.
        Test Fight
        Animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyY3ROG7eI
        2009
        I finally met up with Monty in person at Anime Expo in Los Angeles. Meeting him facetoface
        was the sole reason I went. I prepared so many questions in advance, and I even offered to
        buy him lunch to make it more worth his time. This is one of the few photos I have of he and I
        together:
        http://shanenewville.deviantart.com/art/MontyOumandShaneNewville128509564
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        An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum by Shane Newville
        It was such a great time. I showed him my work on Little Ninja Project and, thankfully, he saw
        potential in my work and gave me tons of helpful feedback and tips for things to work on.
        Little Ninja Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJX2pjbxAsc
        Death of Little Ninja Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe3nchjxpzc
        I regret not taking more photos with him. I was always afraid of coming off as a fanboy. I was
        insecure. I loved him as my brother and close friend, and I was worried pictures would take
        away from that. But it is now a regret of mine. I no longer have the opportunity to take photos.
        I saw Monty write before, “Life is short, take more photos”. Whether he was quoting someone
        else or not, it is good advice, and I wish I had taken it to heart.
        2010
        I started working on another Test Fight animation, deciding to continue the “story”. I was hoping
        to slowly develop it into something more as I learned how to animate. I met up with Monty again
        at Anime Expo 2010 in LA, and again that month when he attended San Diego Comic Con.
        He gave me lots of helpful feedback and showed me some incredible, still unreleased work for
        future Dead Fantasy episodes. It was like being on cloud nine any time I got to have a
        discussion with him. Not just from being a fan of his work, but here was a guy doing something
        amazing… why the heck was he talking to me? Regardless, I soaked it in and learned all I
        could from my time with him.
        Almost Too Much
        After he had gone back to Austin, my wife Katie snuck his number off my phone, called him and
        set up the best birthday gift ever. She sent me off in November to spend a weekend with him at
        an empty Rooster Teeth building. Everyone was out of the office all weekend except for him.
        What did we do? Nothing but work.
        It was glorious. I learned so much— so so much. I saw, finally, first hand, how he created his
        amazing choreographed scenes in Poser. The Test Fight Animation 2 project I had spent
        months working on… he took the whole thing and recreated it with me, in Poser, in less than 2
        Page 5
        An Open Letter to All Who Treasured Monty Oum by Shane Newville
        days. Everything I thought I knew about how one was supposed to approach animation got
        shredded to bits, scattered across the ground, and used as fertilizer for the new seeds planted
        in my mind to grow and flourish. It was almost too much. But at the same time, no, it was not
        too much. In fact, it was way less because this way allowed much more time for actually
        creating things. His way of work was so pure, raw, unorthodox, and efficient. It was flawed— not
        stuck in the cookie cutter shapes of standardization, and that is what made it perfect. He was
        actually able to accomplish things. All the things that we’ve come to know him for.
        Test Fight
        Animation 2 – Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shfQ6G6Yp4I
        Test – Fight Animation 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOwlCZzTZYI
        Challenges
        I had a lot working against me. Diagnosed with major depression at a very young age (4 or 5),
        my self esteem had been shot to pieces by many things that happened or were told to me from
        early childhood all the way into adulthood. I felt I had no right to call myself an artist, or a real
        animator for that matter, even while working directly with Monty.
        I have had people tell me right to my face that I was not going to stand a chance because I just
        don’t have what it takes. I was working fulltime
        at a job that did not pay me enough for rent.
        My wife and I had to live in special situations where extra labor (yard work, house cleaning,
        taking care of animals on a ranch, etc.) was required as trade for a place to stay. I thought
        negatively about waiting this long to start pursuing my passion. I was married. I had 2 kids.
        Where is there room for not only teaching myself animation, but getting good enough to make
        anything worth watching? No matter what, I kept going. Monty’s undying drive and motivation
        to create things, no matter what, kept me going.
        I had hope. I took the many difficulties as simply a challenge to overcome. Because if I could
        accomplish something even remotely cool with all of those obstacles, how much more would it
        encourage others to keep going and overcome their own challenges? Even if one had greater
        challenges, could I give them the motivation to face them anyway and overcome? It’s so
        important to keep hope alive in the face of what seems impossible.
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        4楼2016-05-13 17:00
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          卧槽,好长,有时间再慢慢看,慢慢理解……先收藏着


          IP属地:广东来自Android客户端5楼2016-05-17 19:19
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            啃完了,表示震惊和失望,要是真是这样,我可能真的放弃RWBY了,看完S3我的想法就是:听说这还是MO大的剧本,不要急着下结论,后面也许有转机有伏笔,先期待着吧。结果这内幕一爆,我真的心累,且不谈RT对MO遗作不尊重,即使他们要抛MO大单干,也没拿出让我满意的干货来,以及看到这位和MO一起造梦的动画师的经历和内心,难过无奈的心情涌上来,但也希望他能度过难关,坚持自己的动画梦。
            将来RWBY出后续,我一定会再去看的,但作为从当初出预告片,一集集追S1更新的我来说,太失望太心累了。
            想到MO大的剧本被直接无视,我就又气愤又心痛。


            IP属地:英国来自Android客户端6楼2016-05-27 00:31
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              楼主,能转否?高冷动漫吧


              IP属地:英国来自Android客户端7楼2016-05-27 00:33
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