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IP属地:日本1楼2017-07-16 00:54回复
    ★★★声明:发帖非鼓励依赖干粮饮食,只为各种原因无法离开干粮的家长准备。非专业评测,仅供参考。有各类病史请谨遵医嘱提供饮食。
    除官方英文配料表外为全手打,请尊重劳动成果,未经允许请勿转载。
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    鸣谢:感谢一直以来给予帮助的各位前辈大神,感谢众多支持顶贴的猫友。
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    ★★★本次主要涉及变化更新的有:
    1.素力高:奇迹暖暖死忠粉(大量包装再次改变,包含一些数值微小变化但不是重点)
    2.卡比无谷系列:换个马甲还是他(无谷系列绝大多数包装微改)
    3.GO:中档天然粮顶梁柱出现裂痕(七种肉和三种鱼蛋白下降)
    4.爱肯拿羊肉钙磷分别由原来的1.6%/1.3%上升至1.8%/1.5%
    5.大部分猫粮在主要成分值后追加了个人见解。(虽有标注,但个人还是建议没有特殊病史的猫食用蛋白38%以上,脂肪20%左右的猫粮。最好能达到40%以上)
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    1.不出意外这里面的猫粮短时间我是不会再出更新了。
    2.看帖前注意两件事:第一,注意猫粮是商品,任何一家官网介绍都是有宣传成分的;第二,携带大脑,不要秀下限。


    IP属地:日本2楼2017-07-16 00:55
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      新渴望鸡
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      Deboned chicken, deboned turkey, yellowtail flounder, whole eggs, whole atlantic mackerel, chicken liver, turkey liver, whole atlantic herring, chicken heart, turkey heart, dehydrated chicken, dehydrated turkey, dehydrated mackerel, dehydrated chicken liver, dehydrated turkey liver, whole green peas, whole navy beans, red lentils, chicken necks, chicken kidney, chicken fat, pinto beans, chickpeas, green lentils, alfalfa, natural chicken flavor, alfalfa, herring oil, ground chicken bone, chicken cartilage, turkey cartilage, dried kelp, freeze-dried chicken liver, freeze-dried turkey liver, whole pumpkin, whole butternut squash, kale, spinach, mustard greens, collard greens, turnip greens, whole carrots, apples, pears, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, choline chloride, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, mixed tocopherols (preservative), chicory root, turmeric, sarsaparilla root, althea root, rosehips, juniper berries, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product.
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      【部分配料表翻译】
      去骨鸡肉,去骨火鸡,黄盖鲽鱼,完整干燥蛋,完整大西洋鲭鱼
      鸡肝,火鸡肝,完整大西洋鲱鱼,鸡心,火鸡心
      脱水鸡肉,脱水火鸡,脱水鲭鱼,脱水鸡肝,完整绿豌豆
      完整海军豆,红扁豆,鸡脖,鸡肾,斑豆
      (含有菠菜)
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      【营养成分分析】
      粗蛋白(最少):40%——(旧渴望鸡42%)
      粗脂肪(最少):20%——(不变)
      粗纤维(最多):3%——(不变)
      水分:10%
      钙(最低):1.2%——(旧渴望鸡钙最低1.4%,最高1.7%)
      磷(最低):1%——(旧渴望鸡钙最低1.1%,最高1.4%)
      镁(最低):0.1%——(旧最高0.09%)
      牛磺酸:0.2%——(旧0.25%)
      Omega6(最低)::3.5%
      Omega3(最低):0.8%——(旧1.2%)
      维生素A:16 kIU/kg——(旧17kIU/kg)
      碳水化合物估算(灰分值参考旧渴望鸡8%):14.5%(变化不大)
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      热量:4060 kcal/kg
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      【简评】
      大刀阔斧的改革
      在配料表里,可以看到其团队试图将干粮的营养来源努力接近自然猎食禽类的摄入。首先我们基本和肉粉说拜拜了,接着在配料表的后排发现了鸡脖,肾脏这些原本没有的原料。至于担心VA?恩看起来比旧版还要下降了些
      肉粉的离开,相对可能会增加成本,所以追求肉粮我们只能对这2%的蛋白缩水妥协
      碳水化合物和原来差别不大
      Omega3减少了
      钙磷最低值降低,虽然值得高兴,但失去了最高值标注以及没有明确新版灰分量,略有些失望


      IP属地:日本3楼2017-07-16 01:01
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        新渴望鱼
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        Whole atlantic mackerel, whole atlantic herring, whole atlantic flounder, whole acadian redfish, atlantic monkfish, whole silver hake, mackerel meal, herring meal, blue whiting meal, herring oil, whole green peas, whole navy beans, whole red lentils, alaskan cod meal, pollock meal, sunflower oil, whole pinto beans, whole chickpeas, natural fish flavor, whole green lentils, whole yellow peas, safflower oil, lentil fiber, freeze-dried cod liver, whole pumpkin, whole butternut squash, kale, spinach, mustard greens, collard greens, turnip greens, whole carrots, whole apples, whole pears, dried kelp, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, choline chloride, zinc proteinate, mixed tocopherols (preservative), copper proteinate, chicory root, turmeric, sarsaparilla root, althea root, rosehips, juniper berries, dried lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried lactobacillus casei fermentation product.
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        【部分配料表翻译】
        完整大西洋鲭鱼,完整大西洋鲱鱼,完整大西洋鲽鱼,条纹平鲉,大西洋鮟鱇鱼
        完整银鳕鱼,鲽鱼粉,鳕鱼粉,蓝鳕鱼粉,鳕鱼油
        完整绿豌豆,完整海军豆,完整红扁豆,阿拉斯加鳕鱼粉,青鳕鱼粉
        (含有菠菜)
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        【营养成分分析】
        粗蛋白(最少):40%——(旧渴望鱼42%)
        粗脂肪(最少):20%——(不变)
        粗纤维(最多):3%——(不变)
        水分:10%
        钙(最低):1.5%——(旧渴望鱼钙最低1.4%,最高1.7%)
        磷(最低):1.3%——(旧渴望鱼钙最低1.1%,最高1.4%)
        镁(最低):0.1%——(旧最高0.09%)
        牛磺酸:0.3%——(旧0.25%)
        Omega6(最低)::2.5%
        Omega3(最低):2.1%——(旧1.8%)
        碳水化合物估算(灰分值参考旧渴望鱼8%):14.1%(变化不大)
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        热量:4060 kcal/kg
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        【简评】
        也是大刀阔斧的革新
        原料上鱼粉的排名靠后了些,就算是努力了吧,除了鳕鱼这个“鱼肉猫粮万金油”,其他鱼与旧版基本完全不一样,你要我说哪种好,我也是才学疏浅(在北美转一圈,没准我可以告诉你哪种好吃
        豆子还是一如既往的有
        鱼的数据无论是新版还是旧版都多少和渴望鸡有些像。
        但是Omega3比鸡款丰富很多,这次甚至还提高了。但是比例不是很让人高兴。


        IP属地:日本4楼2017-07-16 01:02
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          新渴望苔原五种肉(疾风:苔原大杂烩)
          (五种肉译名原因:将羊肉归为一类,鱼肉归为一类的暴力翻译)
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          Fresh goat (5%), fresh wild boar (5%), fresh venison (5%), fresh arctic char (5%), fresh duck (5%), fresh mutton (4%), fresh steelhead trout (4%), fresh duck liver (4%), fresh wild boar liver (4%), fresh wild boar kidney (4%), mackerel (dehydrated, 4%), whole pilchard (4%), lamb (dehydrated, 4%), mutton dehydrated, 4%), alaskan cod meal (dehydrated, 4%), blue whiting (dehydrated, 4%), duck fat (4%), herring (dehydrated, 4%), whole red lentils, whole green lentils, whole green peas, whole chickpeas, whole yellow peas, whole pinto beans, lentil fiber, fresh mutton tripe (1.5%), herring oil (1%), fresh goat heart (1%), fresh goat kidney (1%), fresh goat liver (0.5%), fresh venison heart (0.5%), fresh venison liver (0.5%), fresh mutton liver (0.5%) , fresh wild boar heart (0.5%), whole navy beans, goat liver (freeze-dried), venison liver (freeze-dried), whole pumpkin, whole butternut squash, whole zucchini, whole parsnips, carrots, whole apples, whole bartlett pears, kale, spinach greens, beet greens, turnip greens, dried brown kelp, whole cranberries, whole blueberries, chicory root, turmeric root, milk thistle, burdock root, lavender, marshmallow root, rosehips, enterococcus faecium.
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          【部分成分表翻译】
          新鲜山羊肉(5%),新鲜野猪肉(5%),新鲜鹿肉(5%),新鲜北极鲑鱼(5%)新鲜鸭肉(5%),
          新鲜绵羊肉(4%),新鲜钢头鳟鱼(4%),新鲜鸭肝(4%),新鲜野猪肝(4%),新鲜野猪肾(4%),
          脱水鲭鱼(4%),完整沙丁鱼(4%),脱水羔羊肉(4%),脱水绵羊肉(4%),脱水阿拉斯加鳕鱼粉(4%),
          脱水蓝鳕鱼(4%)鸭脂肪(4%),脱水鲱鱼(4%),完整红扁豆,完整绿扁豆,
          完整绿豌豆,完整鹰嘴豆,完整黄豌豆,完整斑豆,扁豆纤维,
          新鲜绵羊肚(1.5%),鲱鱼油(1%),新鲜山羊心(1%),新鲜山羊肾(1%),新鲜山羊肝(0.5%),
          新鲜鹿心(0.5%),新鲜鹿肝(0.5%),新鲜绵羊肝(0.5%),新鲜野猪肝(0.5%)
          (有菠菜)
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          【营养成分分析】
          粗蛋白(最低):40%——OK
          粗脂肪(最低):20%——丰富
          灰分(最低):9%——OK
          粗纤维(最高):3%——OK
          水分:10%
          钙(最低):1.9%
          磷(最低):1.4%
          镁(最低):0.1%
          牛磺酸:0.2%
          Omega6(最低)::2.4%
          Omega3(最低):1%
          碳水化合物估算:17%——略高
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          热量:4120 kcal/kg
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          【简评】
          成分表整体还算好看,肉类很丰富,且有适量的肝脏,但是依然没能摆脱豆类的强烈存在感。在削弱肉粉存在的方面越做越好。
          有一点需要注意的是,英文原版成分表其中是有一例肉粉的,虽然靠后,但不证明没有,而在预告贴中猫友提供的京宠展单中没有翻译出来,不知道是刻意隐藏还是没走心


          IP属地:日本6楼2017-07-16 01:05
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            新渴望完美体态
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            Fresh chicken meat (14%), fresh whole eggs (6%), fresh whole herring (6%), fresh turkey meat (6%), fresh chicken liver (6%), fresh whole flounder (4%), fresh whole mackerel (4%), fresh whole pacific hake (4%), fresh turkey liver (4%), fresh chicken heart (4%), chicken (dehydrated, 4%), turkey (dehydrated, 4%), whole mackerel (dehydrated, 4%), whole sardine (dehydrated, 4%), whole herring (dehydrated, 4%), alaskan pollock (dehydrated, 4%), lentil fiber, whole red lentils, whole green lentils, whole green peas, whole chickpeas, whole yellow peas, whole pinto beans, whole navy beans, chicken cartilage (dehydrated, 1%), fresh turkey heart (1%), whole blue whiting (dehydrated, 1%), chicken fat (0.5%), apple fiber, dried algae (source of DHA and EPA), pumpkin (dehydrated), butternut squash (dehydrated), carrots (dehydrated), chicken liver (freeze-dried), turkey liver (freeze-dried), fresh whole pumpkin, fresh whole butternut squash, fresh whole zucchini, fresh whole parsnips, fresh carrots, fresh whole red delicious apples, fresh whole bartlett pears, fresh kale, fresh spinach, fresh beet greens, fresh turnip greens, brown kelp, whole cranberries, whole blueberries, whole saskatoon berries, chicory root, turmeric root, milk thistle, burdock root, lavender, marshmallow root, rosehips, enterococcus faecium.
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            【成分表部分翻译】
            新鲜鸡肉(14%),完整新鲜鸡蛋(6%),完整新鲜鲱鱼(6%)新鲜火鸡肉(6%)新鲜鸡肝(6%)
            完整新鲜比目鱼(4%),完整新鲜鲭鱼(4%),完整新鲜太平洋鳕鱼(4%),新鲜火鸡肝(4%),新鲜鸡心(4%)
            脱水鸡肉(4%),脱水火鸡肉(4%),脱水完整鲭鱼(4%),脱水完整沙丁鱼(4%),脱水完整鲱鱼
            脱水阿拉斯加青鳕鱼(4%),扁豆纤维,完整红扁豆,完整绿扁豆,完整绿豌豆
            完整鹰嘴豆,完整黄豌豆,完整斑豆,完整海军豆,脱水鸡软骨(1%)
            新鲜火鸡心(1%),脱水完整蓝鳕(1%),鸡脂肪(0.5%)
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            【营养成分分析】
            粗蛋白(最低):44%——丰富
            粗脂肪(最低):15%——OK
            灰分(最低):10%——OK
            粗纤维(最高):6%——高
            水分:10%
            钙(最低):1.4%
            磷(最低):1.1%
            镁(最低):0.1%
            牛磺酸:0.2%
            Omega6(最低)::2.4%
            Omega3(最低):1%
            碳水化合物估算:15%——略高
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            热量: 3710 kcal/kg
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            【简评】
            没有肉粉!蛋白44%!
            除了略高的纤维,真的算是一款看起来不错的粮,当然渴望家一样毛病——豆类开会。
            热量确实低了,增加纤维量可能是在一定程度上延长消化时间,嘛,比起素力高某款减肥粮的纤维量已经好多了


            IP属地:日本7楼2017-07-16 01:06
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              【渴望新配方(新时代)总结】
              为什么加上一个“新时代”,在2016年更新三款老配方以及今年推出两款新配方上,我们可以看到,渴望已经开始减少肉粉在自家配方中的存在感。两款新配方的成分表,不仅提供了灰分,且对基本肉类食材都有占比、新鲜或脱水的标示,
              这是目前我个人见过的较为完美的成分表,非常良心,非常漂亮,所以我想擅自将2016年作为渴望的一个界限——2016年开始渴望发生了巨大变化
              回去翻了翻2012年E前辈的《猫粮小典》,以及我自己一年前的帖子。看到了渴望的很多变化,不禁热泪盈眶(雾),感慨时间过得好快。


              IP属地:日本8楼2017-07-16 01:07
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                GO鸡肉火鸡鸭肉配方 (Go Grain Free chicken,turkey+duck)
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                (注:貌似这就是大家说的“七种肉”,然而成分表里好像并没有找到7种肉类材料,不知是怎么传开的)

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                Chicken meal, de-boned chicken, de-boned turkey, duck meal, turkey meal, salmon meal, de-boned trout, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), natural fish flavour, peas, potatoes, whole dried egg, potato flour, tapioca, de-boned salmon, de-boned duck, salmon oil, pumpkin, apples, carrots, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa, sweet potatoes, blackberries, papayas, pineapple, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, taurine, choline chloride, dried chicory root, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, vitamins (vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, inositol, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, beta-carotene, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc oxide, manganese proteinate, copper sulphate, calcium iodate, ferrous sulphate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite), yucca schidigera extract, yeast extract, dried rosemary.
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                【部分成分表翻译】
                鸡肉粉,去骨鸡肉,去骨火鸡,鸭肉粉,火鸡粉,
                三文鱼粉,去骨鳟鱼,鸡肉脂肪,天然鱼味剂,豌豆
                马铃薯,马铃薯粉
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                【成分分析值】
                粗蛋白46%--相比之前下降了2%,但是还是较丰富
                粗脂肪 18%--OK
                粗纤维 1.5%--OK
                水分10%
                碳水化合物(估算)11%--较低碳
                Omega6 :3.1%
                Omega3 :0.3%--少
                牛磺酸:0.21%
                灰分(最大)9%
                镁(最大)0.09%--低镁
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                【简评】
                1,蛋白量较为丰富,不过真是赤裸裸的肉粉堆出来的,也没能摆脱土豆的参与
                2,无谷物参与,碳水化合物控制的较低,
                3,低镁,降低饮水不足所带来泌尿疾病的风险
                4,omega3含量偏低,omega6和3的配比很不让人喜欢
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                热量参考值:4298 kcal/kg


                IP属地:日本9楼2017-07-16 01:09
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                  GO淡水鳟鱼+三文鱼配方(GO FRESH WATER TROUT+SALMON RECIPE)
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                  (注:貌似这就是大家说的“三种鱼”,仔细看成分表发现确实有三种,只不过其中两个是鱼粉······)

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                  De-boned trout, salmon meal, herring meal, natural fish flavour, potatoes, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), peas, potato flour, pea fibre, salmon oil, pumpkin, carrots, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa, blackberries, papayas, pineapple, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, taurine, choline chloride, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, dried chicory root, L-lysine, vitamins (vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, inositol, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, beta-carotene, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc oxide, manganese proteinate, copper sulphate, calcium iodate, ferrous sulphate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite), yucca schidigera extract, yeast extract, dried rosemary.
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                  【部分成分表翻译】
                  去骨鳟鱼,三文鱼粉,鲱鱼粉,天然鱼味剂,马铃薯
                  鸡肉脂肪,豌豆,马铃薯粉,豌豆纤维,三文鱼油
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                  【成分分析值】
                  粗蛋白45%--相比之前下降了3%,但是还是较丰富
                  粗脂肪 18%--OK
                  粗纤维 1.5%--OK
                  水分10%
                  碳水化合物(估算)15%--一般
                  Omega6 :2.4%
                  Omega3 :0.48%
                  牛磺酸:0.21%
                  灰分(最大)7.5%
                  镁(最大)0.09%
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                  【简评】
                  1,无谷,蛋白量丰富,主要营养配比接近猫自然需求,不过依然体现了肉粉的高参与度,也没有摆脱马铃薯
                  2,良好的家族低镁特点,依旧不算丰富的omega3
                  3,个人试吃情况,可能和鱼味有关,俩儿子对这款的喜爱度要高于其他go家族,适口性仅作为参考
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                  热量参考值:4444 kcal/kg


                  IP属地:日本10楼2017-07-16 01:10
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                    GO鸡肉配方(GO CHICKEN RECIPE)
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                    Chicken meal, de-boned chicken, whole brown rice, whole white rice, oatmeal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), salmon meal, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, rice bran, apples, carrots, potatoes, cranberries, flaxseed oil, whole dried egg, salmon oil, alfalfa, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, taurine, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulphate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulphate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), DL-methionine, dried chicory root, yucca schidigera extract, dried rosemary.
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                    【部分成分表翻译】
                    鸡肉粉,去骨鸡肉,糙米,精米,燕麦
                    鸡肉脂肪,三文鱼粉,天然鸡肉味剂,葵花籽油,米糠
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                    【成分分析值】
                    粗蛋白32%--低
                    粗脂肪 20%--丰富
                    粗纤维 2.5%
                    水分10%
                    碳水化合物(估算)24%—高碳
                    Omega6 :3.2%
                    Omega3 :0.63%
                    牛磺酸:2050 mg/kg
                    灰分(最大)6.5%
                    镁(最大)0.09%
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                    【简评】
                    1,相对go前两款真是一个糟糕的成分表,蛋白低,有谷物参与,动物蛋白主要靠肉粉,较多的植物油
                    2,24%的碳水化合物,相当高
                    3,低镁(这款粮对于成分表最后的执着)
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                    热量参考值:4604 kcal/kg


                    IP属地:日本11楼2017-07-16 01:11
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                      GO鸭肉配方(GO DUCK RECIPE)
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                      De-boned duck, duck meal, whole dried egg, peas, pea flour, tapioca, lentils, chickpeas, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), flaxseed, natural flavour, sodium chloride, choline chloride, calcium carbonate, dried chicory root, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, vitamins (vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, inositol, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, beta-carotene, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc oxide, manganese proteinate, copper sulphate, calcium iodate, ferrous sulphate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite), dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, taurine, dried rosemary.
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                      【部分成分表翻译】
                      去骨鸭肉,鸭肉粉,完整干蛋,豌豆,豌豆粉
                      木薯,小扁豆,鹰嘴豆,鸡肉脂肪,亚麻籽
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                      【成分分析值】
                      粗蛋白31%——低
                      粗脂肪 15%——低
                      粗纤维 3.5%
                      水分10%
                      碳水化合物(估算)28%——过高
                      Omega6 :2.5%
                      Omega3 :0.5%
                      灰分(最大)7.5%
                      镁(最大)0.1%
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                      【简评】
                      1,首先说件略感**的事,官方强调说“填加了牛磺酸,对视力和心脏功能有益”,然后我盯着看了1分钟官方的营养成分,他喵的完全没有牛磺酸量的数值标注,是的,完!全!没!有!(╯`□′)╯(┻━┻
                      2,蛋白好低,碳水化合物爆表,淀粉类食材存在感太强,
                      3,仅剩的两个执着点:无谷和低镁
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                      热量参考值:4222 kcal/kg


                      IP属地:日本12楼2017-07-16 01:12
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                        【GO总结】
                        1,整体肉粉存在感很强,家族特性是低镁,
                        2,三种肉(七种肉)和三种鱼的配方较为合适,蛋白量和碳水化合物控制的都不错,
                        3,鸡肉和鸭肉配方碳水化合物很高,性价比较低 4,三种肉配方(七种肉)和三种鱼配方有菠菜成分,鸡肉配方和鸭肉配方没有,个别有病史的喵,家长请注意医生指导下选择


                        IP属地:日本13楼2017-07-16 01:13
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                          NOW 幼猫粮(NOW FRESH™ Grain Free Kitten food )
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                          De-boned turkey, potato flour, peas, potatoes, whole dried egg, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), pea fibre, tomato, natural flavour, flaxseed, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), de-boned salmon, de-boned duck, carrots, pumpkin, apples, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, blackberries, papayas, pineapple, grapefruit, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa sprouts, dicalcium phosphate, sundried alfalfa, dried kelp, calcium carbonate, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, lecithin, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, taurine, dried seaweed meal, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulphate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulphate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), L-lysine, dried chicory root, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, yeast extract, yucca schidigera extract, L-carnitine, marigold, dried rosemary.
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                          【部分成分表翻译】
                          去骨火鸡肉,马铃薯粉,豌豆,完整干蛋,马铃薯,
                          柯罗纳油(芥花油),豌豆纤维,番茄,自然调味剂,亚麻籽
                          椰子油,去骨三文鱼,去骨鸭肉,胡萝卜,南瓜
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                          【成分分析值】
                          粗蛋白33%——低
                          粗脂肪 20%——丰富
                          粗纤维 2.5%
                          水分10%
                          灰分(最大):6%
                          碳水化合物(估算)25%——高
                          Omega6 :2.4%
                          Omega3 :0.48%——略低
                          牛磺酸:2500 mg/kg
                          镁(最大)0.09%
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                          【简评】
                          ——优点:
                          1,宣传使用100%新鲜肉类,没有肉粉参与;
                          2,灰分很低,猜测钙磷不会很高,历来的低镁特点,同样水分摄入不足的条件下引起尿液结晶和结石的概率要比其他钙磷镁高的粮会小些;
                          3,加入了微生物制剂,食材也是常见的较容易消化的
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                          ——缺点:
                          1,前面说的看起来真好,不得不承认优点确实挺突出,但是缺点也够明显,最大的问题莫过于高碳水化合物和低蛋白了,除非你的猫确实已经难以适应低碳高蛋白饮食,并且你也不担心高碳饮食的疾病风险,那么now恐怕还不错。但是对于大多数正常饮食的健康猫,now这种高碳低蛋白的粮绝对不是首选
                          2,新版的官方网站信息没有食材比重的信息,这里参考下E前辈的“猫粮小典”中的分析:
                          ——“虽然网站宣传自己使用“with 100% FRESH turkey, salmon, duck”,但是后两者,三文鱼和鸭子分别只占2.5%,还是没有干燥的,干燥了1%都不到。成分表前5位中,4位都是素的。如果 也算荤菜,那成分表前十位里,只有2种荤的,可猫咪明明是肉食动物啊。虽然使用了20%的去骨火鸡肉,但是干燥以后估计重量只剩6%,而马铃薯粉重量可是几乎实打实的干重。可以猜测这款猫粮的蛋白质能到32.9%,大部分都是植物性蛋白”
                          这里不清楚当初网站信息是什么样的,但是干燥确实猫粮制造常见的食材处理技术,所以这样看来除非达到相当高的肉类食材使用率,否则即使有肉,干燥之后的质量占比也是少的可怜
                          3,omega3不是很丰富
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                          热量参考值:3947 kcal/kg


                          IP属地:日本14楼2017-07-16 01:14
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                            NOW成猫猫粮(NOW FRESH™ Grain Free Adult cat food )
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                            De-boned turkey, potato flour, peas, potatoes, pea fibre, whole dried egg, tomato, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), flaxseed, natural flavour, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), de-boned salmon, de-boned duck, apples, carrots, pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papayas, pineapple, grapefruit, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa sprouts, alfalfa, calcium carbonate, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, lecithin, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, taurine, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulphate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulphate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), dried kelp, L-lysine, dried chicory root, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, yucca schidigera extract, L-carnitine, marigold, dried rosemary.
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                            【部分成分表翻译】
                            去骨火鸡,马铃薯粉,豌豆,马铃薯,豌豆纤维
                            完整干蛋,番茄,柯罗纳油(芥花油),亚麻籽,自然调味剂
                            椰子油,去骨三文鱼,去骨鸭肉,苹果,胡萝卜
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                            【成分分析值】
                            粗蛋白31%——低
                            粗脂肪 18%——OK
                            粗纤维 2.5%
                            水分10%
                            灰分(最大):6.5%
                            碳水化合物(估算)28%——过高
                            Omega6 :2.4%
                            Omega3 :0.48%——略低
                            牛磺酸:2400 mg/kg
                            镁(最大)0.09%
                            磷(最少)0.6%
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                            【简评】
                            额,优缺点差不多,不过蛋白低到31%了,
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                            热量参考值:3862 kcal/kg


                            IP属地:日本15楼2017-07-16 01:15
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                              NOW老猫粮(NOW FRESH™Grain Free Senior cat food recipe )
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                              De-boned turkey, potato flour, peas, pea fibre, whole dried egg, potatoes, tomato, flaxseed, apples, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), alfalfa, de-boned salmon, de-boned duck, natural flavour, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), lecithin, carrots, pumpkin, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, raspberries, blackberries, papayas, pineapple, grapefruit, lentil beans, broccoli, spinach, cottage cheese, alfalfa sprouts, dicalcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, phosphoric acid, sodium chloride, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, taurine, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, inositol, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc proteinate, ferrous sulphate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulphate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), dried kelp, L-lysine, dried chicory root, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, yucca schidigera extract, yeast extract, L-carnitine, marigold, dried rosemary.
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                              【部分成分表翻译】
                              去骨火鸡,马铃薯粉,豌豆,豌豆纤维,完整干蛋,
                              马铃薯,番茄,亚麻籽,苹果,柯罗纳油(芥花油),
                              紫花苜蓿,去骨三文鱼,去骨鸭肉,自然调味剂,椰子油
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                              【成分分析值】
                              粗蛋白30%——低
                              粗脂肪 14%——较低
                              粗纤维 5%——说实话稍微有点高
                              水分10%
                              灰分(最大):6.5%
                              碳水化合物(估算)30%——爆表
                              Omega6 :2.6%
                              Omega3 :0.52%
                              牛磺酸:2800 mg/kg
                              镁(最大)0.1%
                              磷(最少)0.6%
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                              【简评】
                              优缺点大致同上,碳水化合物更高了,蛋白到了30%,纤维有点略高了,虽说可以减轻软便,但是强行延长食物的消化时间真的好么····也有点稍微有好处的变化,牛磺酸略微提高了一些(也仅此而已),因为我支持高蛋白饮食,对于健康的大龄猫来说,我实在难以认同这款老猫粮的营养配比
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                              热量参考值:3571 kcal/kg


                              IP属地:日本17楼2017-07-16 01:20
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