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来自yuri review网站。正是因为这个测评,我才知道了altach-nacha的游戏

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1楼2019-09-11 09:49回复
    Storyline: 10/10
    故事:10/10
    Taking cues from both Lovecraftian literature and traditional gothic horror, Atlatch-Nacha tells an extremely (I’m talking Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain mixed with Hellgirl and Spec Ops: The Line dark) dark and graphic tale of betrayal, love, the inner evil of mankind, and the nature of how power can corrupt the best of souls.
    受“拉夫克拉夫特恐怖文学*”和“哥特恐怖”小说影响,Atlatch-Nacha讲述了暗黑而又生动的传说(“合金装备”配上“地狱少女阎魔爱”那种),讲述了背叛,爱情,人类的本恶,以及力量是如何腐蚀善良的灵魂的本质。
    *拉夫克拉夫特恐怖文学:即克鲁苏神话体系,最典型的怪物就是章鱼一样的“触手怪”。
    In Atlach-Nacha, there is zero, and I mean ZERO, good versus evil elements. The majority of the game consists of evil versus evil conflicts, with only a few characters barely qualifying as moral. The story involves a Jorogumo (a spider daemon from ancient Japan that can take the form of a beautiful young woman), named Hatsune Hirasaka, whose nest has been destroyed by her long-time rival Shirogane.
    Atlatch-Nacha里,没有、根本“没有”善与恶的对抗。游戏里大部分都是“恶对恶”,只有少数几个角色还能称得上有道德观念。故事讲了女郎蜘蛛(日本传说中的蜘蛛怪,以年轻的美女的形象出现)比良坂初音的事,她的巢被宿敌“银(Shirogane)”破坏了
    Hatsune decides she needs to hide from the world in order to restore her powers, since she was severely injured in a fight. She chooses a high school as her new nest and takes what she needs from there. Hatsune feeds by devouring the flesh of humans or consuming the sexual energy that intercourse brings.
    初音在一次战斗中受了重伤,于是决定躲起来恢复力量。她选了一所高中作为巢穴,并从中取得她想要的一切。初音的进食方式有两种,吃人,或者通过啪啪啪来补魔。
    The story begins during a stormy night, when Kanako Miyama, the secondary protagonist of the visual novel, is being gangraped at the back of the gymnasium by some male students. However, Hatsune decides to intervene, grisly slaughtering them in a display of gore-ish badassness before literally devouring them.
    故事始于一个雷雨夜。小说的第二主人公‘深山奏子’,在体育馆用具处被一群男学生QJ。但是,初音决定干涉,大开杀戒,然后吃了他们。

    Initially, Hatsune only saved Kanako because she was planning to rape or eat her herself, but since she’s already satisfied by her previous meal, she decides to spare the young schoolgirl. Hatsune later seduces her, manipulates her. and turns her into her personal tool.
    初音最初救了奏子,本是想留着给自己QJ或吃掉。但是因为她前一顿饭吃饱了,就决定放过这个高中生。初音之后魅惑了她,玩弄了她,把她变成自己的工具。
    A good portion of the story shows Hatsune interacting with the staff and students of the school, with flashbacks from the past appearing every now and then, which help develop the story and the characters. Soon Hatsune begins to sense Silver, her rival, which leads to her making preparations for the imminent battle.
    故事里的很多时间,初音都在和学校的员工学生互动,偶尔会穿插过去的记忆闪回,帮助故事发展和人物塑造。很快,初音开始感受到敌人“银”的气息,让她为即将来临的作战准备。
    The entire storyline is depressing as hell, especially Hatsune’s horribly tragic backstory, as well as the endings that are either huge downers, or very bittersweet. Heck, The game is just one huge tragedy.
    整个故事致郁之极,尤其是初音的悲惨过去,还有结局。结局要么让你失望透顶,要么让你觉得苦中带甜。反正游戏就是个大悲剧。
    While the game is extremely dark for a Yuri product (or game in general), it’s nonetheless fantastically told and written. The game makes huge strides to make us sympathize with the characters, even the bad ones (besides Silver, who is just a monstrous jerk), and doesn’t go with the cliched “complete monster” stereotype that most visual novels go for.
    尽管游戏对于百合类题材来说太黑暗(对于一般的游戏来说也是),但是它文笔极其精彩。游戏让我们对角色——甚至是恶人——产生同情心(除了银之外,那家伙就是个chu生),而不是像许多电子小说那样只写个套路的“大魔王”。


    4楼2019-09-11 18:57
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      Characters: 10/10
      角色:10/10
      Atlach-Nacha has a pretty large cast of characters, mostly Hatsune’s various victims, so I won’t go into detail about them.
      Atlach-Nacha里角色比较多,大部分都是初音的猎物,所以我不会细聊他们
      While Kanako is a great character, she not that noteworthy. She’s there to make sure Hatsune doesn’t stray too far from her humanity, and can be seen as a guardian angel due to her morality. Her character is affected by the progress of the VN, and she can turn out radically different in multiple playthroughs. However, Hatsune and her relationship with Kanako carried the entire Visual novel for me.
      奏子的角色没什么可说的,虽然她写的也很出色。她的存在,就是确保初音不太脱离人性,因为她有道德观念,可以把她看成初音的守护天使。小说的进展,对她的性格有影响,在不同的路线里,她会变得截然不同。但是,初音和奏子之间的感情贯穿了整部小说。

      “Know your place, pig….”
      知道点分寸,猪
      Atlach-Nacha’s villain protagonist Hatsune Hirasaka is simultaneously one of the most evil, but also sympathetic characters in the whole game. She’s a century-old spider-daemon and extremely powerful, being able to take on a gang of strong men with zero effort. Described as being very polite, if a little strange by her classmates, underneath her exterior, Hatsune is extremely ruthless and cruel. She has no regard for human morality and ethics, viewing them as lesser beings and considering herself beyond human morality.
      Atlach-Nacha的反派主人公“比良坂初音”,是整部游戏里最邪恶的角色之一、但同时也是最值得同情的角色。她是上百年的蜘蛛精,强大无比,能毫不费力地干掉一群猛男。表面上,初音非常有礼貌,有时还会被同学们认为有点奇怪*,但内心里,她极度残忍无情。她无视人类的伦理和道德,把人当成下等生物,认为自己超越了人的道德体系。
      *注:因为初音说话很老套
      One way of dealing with a noisy upper-classmate is to kidnap his little sister (giving you the option to rape her BDSM style, while you have her captured), lure him out, and then messily devour him. Despite all of this, Hatsune is very sympathetic, due to a number of reasons. Without spoiling anything, Hatsune is very similar to Ai Emma from Hellgirl, as well as Gabriel Belmont (otherwise known as Dracula, the Dragon) from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, as a very tragic figure who became a villain due to horrible circumstances and factors that were beyond their control.
      对付同学的一种方法是,绑架他的妹妹(你可以在监禁她时选择捆绑play),把他引出来,然后吃掉*。尽管如此,初音因为种种原因,依然值得同情。不剧透的话,可以说初音非常像“地狱少女”里的“阎魔爱”,或者游戏“恶魔城 影之命令”里的“加百列.贝尔蒙特”(就是吸血鬼‘德古拉’)。她是个悲剧角色,变成反派的原因,是超越自己控制范围之内的环境因素。
      *注:作者在这里情节描写的不对,八成是搞混了角色。


      5楼2019-09-18 11:21
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        Yuri: 10/10
        百合:10/10
        Atlach-Nacha has tons of Yuri. The main relationship, as I talked about above, is utterly adorable, and I love it. Hatsune is very tender when it comes to her loved one, although there’s some BDSM scenes between them, too (It’s all mutual though). The rest of the Yuri content can be rape-ish at times.
        Atlach-Nacha有一堆百合。最主要的感情线,就像我刚才说的,非常的可爱,我超喜欢的。初音对自己喜欢的人很温柔,尽管她们之间也会有捆绑play(是在双方自愿的情况下)。其他的百合线则是带QJ性质的
        While Hatsune doesn’t need to, you’re sometimes given the option of raping others, both males and female, though she prefers females for s**. If you’re a fan of BDSM, it’s quite prevalent here. There’s also some hetero actions, and if you want to, you can also form a harem….
        尽管初音本身并不需要,有时游戏也会给你选择去QJ他人,男女都有。不过初音偏爱和女的做。如果你喜欢捆绑,游戏里有的是。有时游戏也有BG内容,如果你想的话,也可以搞个后宫。。。。


        7楼2019-09-25 10:03
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          Remember kids, don’t trust spider-ladies who offer you candy!!!
          孩儿们,不要相信给你糖果的蜘蛛女啊!!
          Total Enjoyment: 9/10
          总体:9/10
          One of the best Visual Novels of all time, Atlach-Nacha, proves that tasteful, grim, dark VNs can exist. With one of the greatest villain protagonists of all-time, a compelling, dark, tale of evil against evil, as well as true love; Atlach-Nacha proves to be a masterpiece. Though, it shows it’s age at times (If this was 1997 though, it would earn more than just 10/10).
          作为史上最好的电子小说之一,Atlach-Nacha证明了恐怖、暗黑类的电子小说可以有品位。它有史上最伟大的反派主角,有以恶制恶的黑暗传奇,以及描写了真爱。Atlach-Nacha被奉为经典。但是有时它会显得太古老了(如果是1997年,它的得分要超过10/10)
          To add icing on the cake, since I’m a big Lovecraft/Cthulu mythos fan, it remains very faithful to its namesake, portraying the themes of terror, horror, and madness very well. In other words, leagues better than Nyaruko: Crawling with Love *shudders*
          锦上添花的是,因为我自己也是克鲁苏神话的迷妹,这个游戏非常忠于自己的名字,栩栩如生地描绘了一个恐怖疯狂的世界。也就是说,甩了“潜行吧!奈亚子”几条街 *耸肩*


          9楼2019-09-25 10:06
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            纠正一个翻译错误,Cthulu mythos 是克苏鲁神话,文中翻译错了


            10楼2019-09-25 11:53
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              感谢翻译老实说过去这么久还有人记得这部游戏 挺感动的


              IP属地:浙江11楼2019-10-09 09:34
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                感谢翻译。
                Atlach=Nacha故事线不长,但是异常完整,而且文字表现力特别强。
                感情与人物刻画都很到位。
                故事黑暗,不落俗套,内核却不扭曲,恶人无一例外都是要死的。
                凄美的氛围余味悠长。


                IP属地:北京12楼2020-05-18 00:37
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                  看样子国外克苏鲁神话爱好者不怎么喜欢潜行吧奈亚子?也不知道国内的克苏鲁神话爱好者是怎么看待潜行吧奈亚子?


                  IP属地:福建13楼2020-07-30 20:07
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