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看到有人说女生不可以爱Saber,写了篇"我爱Saber的理由"

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1楼2012-12-05 07:54回复

    我爱Saber的理由,简短的说,是因为Saber是一个完整的人。她既有狮子的力量和胆魄,又有天使的容貌和风采。她既是美女又是野兽。她有强大的灵魂,自给自足,无需向外索求。她给予,从不计较报酬。她宽恕,即便对方难以宽恕。她承担一切,从不把怨言留。她忍受一切,从不让人分忧。她外表冷漠无情,内心却如此温柔。

    The reason why I love saber, to make it shortly, is that Saber is a complete being. She has the power and the guts of a lion, and the looking and the elegance of an angel. She is both beauty and beast. She has a powerful soul, self-complete and self-sustaining. She gives, but seldom takes. She forgives, even the most unforgiveable. She bears all, and never complains. She endures all, and never let others know. She is so cold and tough outside, but so warm and tender inside.

    据说Saber的原型是男亚瑟王,是蘑菇中学时代意淫的产物。蘑菇长大后,以他的学生时代的幻想为基础,创作了名为Fate Stay Night的游戏。但是他做了一些改动,把Saber变为15岁的女孩,而且永远不老,以迎合游戏的主要玩家,那些男生们。

    It was said that the prototype of Saber was male King Arthur, out of a fantasy by the author in his middle school days. When the author grown up later on and wrote the script for Fate Stay Night, the galgame, based on his boyhood fantasy, he makes some changes to turn Saber into a fifteen-year old girl who never age in order to cater for targeted game players who would be mostly young boys.


    3楼2012-12-05 07:55
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      这个对Saber性别上的改动,似乎是不经意的方便之举,却被证明是神来之笔。把一位女孩放在亚瑟王的位子上,暗示着一段比原版亚瑟王传说更加精彩动人的传奇。作为女孩,Saber必须比男亚瑟王付出双倍的努力。她必须先做男人,后做国王。她必须跨越小姑娘和男国王之间的生理上和心理上的鸿沟。更何况,Saber必须忍受无尽的孤独,因为她将无法找到人生伴侣。尽管她可以娶王后,但是这场婚姻将注定悲剧,因为任何女孩在知道真相后,都不会心甘情愿地接受她作为丈夫。最后,Saber必须痛苦地接受她无法长大的事实,不得不永远为她的责任而活着。

      What appears to be just an inadvertent change of gender for convenience was proved later to be a touch of magic. By putting a young girl in the position of King Arthur, a saga much more fascinating than the original Arthurian legend is implied. As a girl, Saber must double her efforts as comparing to her male counterpart. Before she becomes a king, she must first become a man. She needs to make up the huge physiological and psychological gap between a young girl and a male king. What is more, Saber must endure the perpetual loneliness as she will never be able to find a lifetime soul mate. Though she may marry a queen, such a marriage is destined to be a tragic one, since no girl, after realizing the truth, will really accept such a king as her husband from heart. Finally, Saber must accept the painful truth that she will never grow up, and have to live an eternal life and bear her responsibility forever.

      如果Saber通过了这些专属于她的考验,再加上亚瑟王的那些磨难,她已经是一个超级大英雄,连男亚瑟王在她面前都黯然无光。但是,这一切都不够,在她临终前,蘑菇又让她接受了新的挑战,即圣杯战争。

      If Saber finally made her way through all the tests tailor-made for her, plus what was originally there for King Arthur, she is already a superhero dwarfing her male counterpart. But, as if all she had were not enough, the author made her to accept a new challenge before she die, that is, to win the war of Holy Grail.


      4楼2012-12-05 07:55
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        FZ就从这里开始的。许多男生不喜欢FZ里的Saber,认为她更像男人,不够女性化。相反,女生们很喜欢这个男性化的Saber,有些女生甚至把自己代入爱丽丝菲尔,Saber发誓保护的对象。

        This was the time when Fate Zero, the animation, begins. A lot of boys do not like the Saber in Fate Zero, because her personality there is more of a boy than a girl. On the contrary, girls love this masculine version of Saber, and some of them even imagined themselves to be Irisviel who Saber took oath to protect.

        我也喜欢FZ里的Saber。但与别人不同,我把自己代入Saber,用她的眼睛去看,用她的心去感受。以这种方式,我感到了她的痛苦,我深深地同情她。

        I love this version of Saber as well. But, instead of Irisviel, I imagined myself to be Saber, seeing through her eyes and feeling through her heart. In this way, I felt all the pains she had, and I became so sympathetic for her.


        5楼2012-12-05 07:56
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          FZ尽管画面光鲜,调子却是漆黑一片。所有的角色都是各种悲剧,尤以Saber为最。因为她固守骑士道,她的主人厌恶和疏远她,甚至不愿意和她说话。因为她无私的为王之道,另外两位王嘲笑讽刺她。她所尊敬的对手恨她,尽管她没有错,是她主人放的大招。她发誓保护的对象最后被敌人劫走了,这意味着她违背了誓言,玷污了骑士的荣耀。最惨的是,她不小心杀死了她最心爱的骑士兰斯洛特,后者因为背叛她而感到羞愧,从而堕落成了Berserker。最后,她的主人强迫她打碎了她梦寐以求的圣杯。她回到了最后的战场卡姆兰丘,看着一具具尸体,她哭泣着,深深地忏悔着,因为她觉得自己为祖国和人民带来了深重的灾难。

          Despites the shinning and blazing pictures, Fate zero is on a dark tone. Almost all characters have their own tragedies, of which the greatest one is Saber’s. She was disliked and alienated, for her adherence to chivalric codes, by her own master who did not even want to speak to her. She was derided and mocked by the other two Kings for her altruistic way of ruling her country. She was hated by the rival she respected, for the dirty trick played by her master, even it was not her fault. The one she took oath to protect was finally abducted by her enemies, meaning that she broke her oath and tarnished her glory as a knight. And then, the worst of all, she accidentally killed Lancelot, the knight who she liked the most, even though he betrayed her, deformed and disguised as Berserker out of shames. At the end, she was forced by her master to break the Holy Grail which she had been so craving for. She returned to Camlann, her last battle ground, staring at the dead bodies, weeping and crying, repenting the disaster she had brought to her country and people.


          6楼2012-12-05 07:56
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            然后,她在FSN里又回来了。我是先看FZ,后看FSNSaber在士郎前面第一次出现了。在月光下,她用平静的目光凝视士郎。那一刻,她显得如此美丽。士郎立刻爱上了她。

            Then she came back again in Fate Stay Night. I happened to watch this animation after Fate Zero. Saber made her first appearance before Shiro, gazed upon him calmly in the moonlight. She seemed to be extremely beautiful in that moment, which made Shiro completely fall in love with her.

            正是在这一刻,我也爱上了Saber,原因却截然不同。士郎看到的只是她外在的美,我却看到,在那美丽的容颜里,有一个高贵的灵魂。为什么,一位女孩,经受了那么多痛苦和磨难,仍然有这样平静而镇定的眼神?为什么,一颗心,明明已经碎成千片万片,却又能重新聚合,好像一切都未曾发生?她所经历的无异于地狱,但是她回来了,光鲜如初,毫发未损。她站在那里,脸上带着只有圣女才有的宁静和安详。以这样的方式,Saber蔑视她的命运,好像那只是个过分的玩笑。正如俄狄浦斯王,Saber通过她的眼神和表情,骄傲地大声宣告:“尽管有诸多不幸,我那高贵的灵魂却告诉我,一切都很好。”是的,对于Saber,一切都很好。这是一个光芒四射的时刻,一个无比尊贵的时刻,一个值得永远铭记的时刻。这一幕就是我的头像。

            This was also the moment when I fall in love with Saber, but due to a different reason. While all Shiro saw was her beauty, I saw a noble soul inside. How could a girl, just came through all those sufferings, returned with such a pair of poised and calm eyes? How could a heart, broken into pieces just a few moments ago, managed to pull them together, as if it had never happened? What she had just been through was hell, but she came back fresh and untainted, standing there, with an expression so tranquil and serene that only belongs to a saint. Through this way, Saber disdained her fate as if it was only a bad joke. Like Oedipus, Saber spoke loudly and proudly through her eyes and expressions, “despite so many ordeals, the nobility of my soul make me conclude that all is well." Yes, for Saber, all is well. This was a moment of glory, a moment of dignity, a moment to be remembered for ever. I made this scene my icon.


            7楼2012-12-05 07:57
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              FSN照抄游戏里Fate线的唯一结局。Saber打破圣杯,诀别士郎,回到她的时代,让贝狄威尔把剑扔到湖里,最后平静地死去。她最后的话是:“这次,我可能会睡得久一些。”

              The ending followed by the animation is the only ending for the route Fate in the game. Saber broke the Holy Grail, made farewell to Shiro, returned to her time, and asked Bedivere to throw her sword into the lake, and finally she died in peace. Her last words were: “This time, I am going to sleep for a little bit longer”.

              到现在我没掉过一滴眼泪,但是看到这一幕,我再也忍不住眼泪,哭了起来。我非常伤心,我为Saber由衷地难过。老天对她如此不公,竟以这种方式结束她的一生。她完全该有更好的结局。她的一生好比奥德赛,历经艰辛,但即使奥德赛也有美好的结局,为什么唯独Saber经历了这么多,最终得到的却是死亡?我期待治愈,却等来新的创伤。

              Up till now I had never shed a drop of tear. But at the last scene I lost my control and burst into tears. I felt so sad. I was so pity for Saber. It seemed to me so unfair for her to end her life in this manner. She deserved something better. Her life was a total odyssey and full of sufferings. But even Odyssey had a happy ending, why Saber’s reward, after all she had been through, was death? I anticipated healing, but instead I got a new scar.


              9楼2012-12-05 07:58
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                从那以后,我又看了许多遍FSN,每次都像第一遍那样感人。在一遍遍地看了最后一幕以后,我突然有了新的感受:那一幕不该属于眼泪,而应属于欢笑。

                Since then, I watched Fate Stay Night many times, each time as moving and touching as the first time. After watching the last scene again and again, I suddenly had a new feeling about it. It is not a moment for tears, but a moment for joy.

                Saber一生就像一件艺术品。艺术品的美,音乐也好绘画也好,不在时间长短和尺寸大小,而在于它们呈现自己的方式。Saber的一生过如此完美,她应该很乐意在此时此地结束自己的生命,就像画家会很乐意画完最后一笔,然后开始欣赏自己的大作。在这种意义上,死亡对于Saber是一种奖赏。没有结尾的人生,就像红A过的那样,是一种可怕的天罚。如果Saber真的走上了红A之路,我们才该为她哭泣。

                Saber’s life is like a work of art. The beauty of any work of art, be it music or paintings, is not judged by their length or size, but the way they present themselves. Saber lived her life in such a perfect way, that she would be happy to end her life there and then, just as an artist will be happy to finish his painting with the last stroke and begin enjoy the whole piece of work. In this sense, death is the final reward to Saber. A life without an ending, as what Archer is living, is a terrible curse. If Saber really takes Archer’s path, we shall then cry for her.


                10楼2012-12-05 07:58
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                  围观


                  IP属地:河南来自Android客户端12楼2012-12-05 08:01
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                    楼主我挺你,说到心坎上了,话说你英语那么好!


                    IP属地:日本来自Android客户端13楼2012-12-05 08:06
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                      有种不好的预感~


                      IP属地:湖北14楼2012-12-05 08:08
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                        楼主够犀利!


                        IP属地:江苏来自手机贴吧15楼2012-12-05 08:09
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                          妹纸英文好厉害 求认识这里菠萝包


                          IP属地:上海来自iPhone客户端16楼2012-12-05 08:10
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                            说的很好!顶下!


                            IP属地:上海来自手机贴吧17楼2012-12-05 08:16
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                              妹子好英语


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