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IP属地:广东来自Android客户端54楼2024-09-01 00:40
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    IP属地:上海来自Android客户端55楼2024-09-01 00:40
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      结论在哪里?


      IP属地:上海来自Android客户端56楼2024-09-01 00:41
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        IP属地:山东来自Android客户端57楼2024-09-01 01:12
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          IP属地:福建来自Android客户端58楼2024-09-01 01:47
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            评定组是令人难崩,维度无限多+每个维度差距无限=超多元🤣🤣🤣


            IP属地:江西来自Android客户端59楼2024-09-01 01:56
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              As the waves paused again, Carter began to comprehend, vaguely and terrifiedly, the ultimate background of that riddle of lost individuality which had at first so horrified him. His intuition pieced together the fragments of revelation, and brought him closer and closer to a grasp of the secret. He understood that much of the frightful revelation would have come upon him—splitting up his ego amongst myriads of earthly counterparts—inside the First Gate, had not the magic of ’Umr at-Tawil kept it from him in order that he might use the Silver Key with precision for the Ultimate Gate’s opening. Anxious for clearer knowledge, he sent out waves of thought, asking more of the exact relationship between his various facets—the fragment now beyond the Ultimate Gate, the fragment still on the quasi-hexagonal pedestal beyond the First Gate, the boy of 1883, the man of 1928, the various ancestral beings who had formed his heritage and the bulwark of his ego, and the nameless denizens of the other aeons and other worlds which that first hideous flash of ultimate perception had identified with him. Slowly the waves of the BEING surged out in reply, trying to make plain what was almost beyond the reach of an earthly mind.
              All descended lines of beings of the finite dimensions, continued the waves, and all stages of growth in each one of these beings, are merely manifestations of one archetypal and eternal being in the space outside dimensions. Each local being—son, father, grandfather, and so on—and each stage of individual being—infant, child, boy, young man, old man—is merely one of the infinite phases of that same archetypal and eternal being, caused by a variation in the angle of the consciousness-plane which cuts it. Randolph Carter at all ages; Randolph Carter and all his ancestors both human and pre-human, terrestrial and pre-terrestrial; all these were only phases of one ultimate, eternal “Carter” outside space and time—phantom projections differentiated only by the angl


              IP属地:福建来自Android客户端60楼2024-09-01 07:26
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                IP属地:江西来自Android客户端61楼2024-09-01 07:26
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                  While most of the impressions translated themselves to Carter as words, there were others to which other senses gave interpretation. Perhaps with eyes and perhaps with imagination he perceived that he was in a region of dimensions beyond those conceivable to the eye and brain of man. He saw now, in the brooding shadows of that which had been first a vortex of power and then an illimitable void, a sweep of creation that dizzied his senses. From some inconceivable vantage-point he looked upon prodigious forms whose multiple extensions transcended any conception of being, size, and boundaries which his mind had hitherto been able to hold, despite a lifetime of cryptical study. He began to understand dimly why there could exist at the same time the little boy Randolph Carter in the Arkham farmhouse in 1883, the misty form on the vaguely hexagonal pillar beyond the First Gate, the fragment now facing the PRESENCE in the limitless abyss, and all the other “Carters” his fancy or perception envisaged.
                  Then the waves increased in strength, and sought to improve his understanding, reconciling him to the multiform entity of which his present fragment was an infinitesimal part. They told him that every figure of space is but the result of the intersection by a plane of some corresponding figure of one more dimension—as a square is cut from a cube or a circle from a sphere. The cube and sphere, of three dimensions, are thus cut from corresponding forms of four dimensions that men know only through guesses and dreams; and these in turn are cut from forms of five dimensions, and so on up to the dizzy and reachless heights of archetypal infinity. The world of men and of the gods of men is merely an infinitesimal phase of an infinitesimal thing—the three-dimensional phase of that small wholeness reached by the First Gate, where ’Umr at-Tawil dictates dreams to the Ancient Ones. Though men hail it as reality and brand thoughts of its many-dimensioned original as unreality, it is in


                  IP属地:福建来自Android客户端62楼2024-09-01 07:28
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                    it is itself really an illusion, for except to the narrow sight of beings in limited dimensions there are no such things as past, present, and future. Men think of time only because of what they call change, yet that too is illusion. All that was, and is, and is to be, exists simultaneously.
                    These revelations came with a godlike solemnity which left Carter unable to doubt. Even though they lay almost beyond his comprehension, he felt that they must be true in the light of that final cosmic reality which belies all local perspectives and narrow partial views; and he was familiar enough with profound speculations to be free from the bondage of local and partial conceptions. Had his whole quest not been based upon a faith in the unreality of the local and partial?
                    After an impressive pause the waves continued, saying that what the denizens of few-dimensioned zones call change is merely a function of their consciousness, which views the external world from various cosmic angles. As the shapes produced by the cutting of a cone seem to vary with the angles of cutting—being circle, ellipse, parabola, or hyperbola according to that angle, yet without any change in the cone itself—so do the local aspects of an unchanged and endless reality seem to change with the cosmic angle of regarding. To this variety of angles of consciousness the feeble beings of the inner worlds are slaves, since with rare exceptions they cannot learn to control them. Only a few students of forbidden things have gained inklings of this control, and have thereby conquered time and change. But the entities outside the Gates command all angles, and view the myriad parts of the cosmos in terms of fragmentary, change-involving perspective, or of the changeless totality beyond perspective, in accordance with their will.


                    IP属地:福建来自Android客户端63楼2024-09-01 07:29
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                      评定组那贴过于抽象,针对性太强了


                      IP属地:河南来自Android客户端64楼2024-09-01 08:21
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                        目前结论跟我以前的看法差不多,以前三个无限盒子我是认三部曲≥克系≥魔圆,克系体量上无限盒子甚至可能还可以往上,但输出一直没看到明确的,魔圆是叠法有争议,有时高阶多元有时无限盒子,三部曲极限叠争议很大,但下限还是稳的,汪吧我主要吹的就三个,奥王(单体左右)三部曲(无限盒子)野生(无限层以上),都是比较稳定的,其他的下限都多多少少有争议


                        IP属地:重庆来自Android客户端65楼2024-09-01 10:07
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                          【评论组】优格索托斯


                          IP属地:江西来自Android客户端67楼2024-09-01 11:52
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                            维度差距:
                            低维对高维如看“画”;
                            低维无法想象高维;
                            适用物理定律的平行宇宙有着相同的空间维度数;
                            低维对高维如放“一部新的卡通片”
                            如果克系的无限差距都不行的话,那我觉得这更啥也不是了


                            IP属地:河南来自Android客户端68楼2024-09-01 20:36
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                              犹格>无限维度其实没什么问题,过门记原文虽然提到了所有有限维度生物的各个时间段都是永恒原型的投影,可同时也提到了原型超越了一切维度,当然也超越了无限维度,只提到有限维度是因为只有有限维度有时间变化,为了证明“时间和变化并不存在”这一文中设定而已,而不是因为只投影了有限维度


                              IP属地:江西来自Android客户端69楼2024-09-02 12:02
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